Jahannamiun:

Thema: Re: But only men of understanding will pay heed.

Nachricht: Do you even know what you're talking about?
"all atheist today are desperate old religions", really? an atheist is someone who doesn't have a religion, because an atheist doesn't believe in a god, so how can someone who doesn't have a religion be an "old religion"?
At first I thought that your english is bad that's all, but now I'm convinced you don't know the basics about the discussion we're having.

I'll refrain from responding to you calling be an animal because I'm not immature like you.

"But only men of understanding will pay heed."
and that gets us back to the point I couldn't get through your thick skull, if the quran is true,everything is controlled by allah, we have no free will, we don't make decisions, only do what allah chooses for us.
"And you do not will except that Allah wills"
you say only men of understanding will pay heed, but where does that understanding comes from? DON'T answer, allah has already answered this question:
"So whoever Allah wants to guide - He expands his breast to [contain] Islam; and whoever He wants to misguide - He makes his breast tight and constricted" (6:125)
knowledge can only come if allah bestows it upon you
"And that those on whom knowledge has been bestowed may learn that the Qur'an is the truth from thy Lord"(22:54)
"This is the guidance of Allah: He giveth that guidance to whom He pleaseth"(6:88)

so why are you blaming me? if allah guides whom he wants and misguides whom he wants, and gives wisdom to whom he wants, ask him

Mutmainnah:

Yes, Allah creates you as  a kafir. i am glad you enjoy it. If there were no atheists , then who would go to hell?

are you sure your view better than mine?

nope!

i worship Allah otherwise you worship lust!

very different, dude!

Allah let you astray and give you many times therefore you may spend all of your times in sins. So u will leave this world as a kafir.i love it.

do what ever you want to do. you are not my family nor my parents.

so i dont need to cry when you sent down to the hell Hawiyah and live there forever ((((((ever)))))). you will be flung to the great Fire (12) Wherein you will neither die nor live.

you talk about taqdir, everything is already known by Allah before they created. Naught of disaster befalleth in the earth or in yourselves but it is in a Book before we bring it into being - Lo! that is easy for Allah - (22) That ye grieve not for the sake of that which hath escaped you, nor yet exult because of that which hath been given. Allah loveth not all prideful boasters. His are the keys of the heavens and the earth, and they who disbelieve the revelations of Allah - such are they who are the losers. you cant run from your destiny. have a nice life as an atheist.  you choose it. you fluent in english doesnt mean you are cleverer than me!